November 13, 2009

Mr. Economical

Hello luvvlies. Long time, no blog. Sorry about that. Last month was really quite rough and I'm only now coming back round to my usual cheerful self. Some of you will recall that I renounced dating not all that long ago, so you will, quite rightly, find it odd that I went on a date last evening. You will also find it equally odd that I can't decide how I feel about that date, or the man himself. Perhaps some of you would be so kind as to impart your wisdom via the comments, as I would certainly appreciate it.

Firstly, we met online via a dating site. He actually lives in the same city which is quite a new concept for me. We got off to a rough start when it became apparent that he'd been, as he put it, "economical" about his age when he deducted several years from it. He is not 39 but rather 42. He is also a Scorpio, and quite a typical one at that. (I'm an Aries.) He does look like his photograph so I suppose I ought to be grateful that he didn't turn up with hobbit hands or hobbit feet. Some background on Mr. Economical: 42, Londoner, public school boy accent, travels constantly and seems to rarely be home. Never been married, no children. Very intelligent, very witty, uncannily perceptive. Ginger coloring and I'm guessing he's about 5'11. So that's 5 fetishes covered in one go!

We met at a subway station and I was only 10 minutes late. I say only because I am often quite late... he wasn't keen about it but handled it well so gets points for that. We walked to an Indian restaurant and had dinner, over the course of which there were several rather unpleasant -- and highly unnecessary -- silences. One of which involved his remarking that our waitress was beautiful. He was of the opinion that this comment should not have bothered me in the slightest and he was simply making an observation. He went on to note that local women were usually beautiful (although this actually is not true IMO for reasons I'm not rude enough to mention.)

Anyway, the point was that I didn't find the comment appropriate given that we were on a date, but he found it to be very much so and even made a point of implying that American women were quite the opposite of beautiful. And then implied that I was insecure for allowing either comment to bother me. He also said I should feel free to point out any good looking man who walked into the room. I didn't bother to explain that I wouldn't want someone to feel like I was more interested in a random stranger than the person I was sitting with. I'd guess that bit of awkwardness came about 2/3 of the way through the date. The part leading up to it was fine. He's very perceptive and y'all know that's very important to me, but he also thought I was competing with him on some level and I sincerely still have no idea what that meant. He spent a lot of time trying to analyze me and accused me of doing the same to him but I actually was not -- I observe the first time I meet someone, I don't really try to analyze things until the next day (i.e., now).

When we left, we were near to a different subway stop that he could have taken; I needed to walk back to where we'd met to catch a bus. He seemed keen to get going immediately upon leaving the restaurant so I told him he could go. He then turned round and said, "I guess you want me to walk you back then." And it was said in a less than enthusiastic manner which I really found insulting so I told him I didn't want him to do anything unless he actually wanted to do it. He then proceeded to walk so fast and far ahead of me that I had to ask him if we were in a Muslim country and should I be wearing a veil. I actually tried to make things less awkward by asking if he needed to go home right then or if he'd like to walk around a bit. He replied that it was cold and so was I. I guess that explains why he then walked a good several feet apart from me the whole way back to the bus stop. To his credit he did walk me all the there and even stood and waited til I was getting on the bus -- I don't think anyone's ever done that before. And I think the cheek-kissing at the end was less than cold and not unkind but I'm just not sure. We parted with him saying, "Ok Babe, see you soon."

Not very promising, right? And as I sat on the bus going home I wasn't sure what I thought about the date or him or anything else. In a matter of 30 minutes he'd told me I'd reminded him of his father and then told me the same with regard to his mother and I reckon those weren't meant to be compliments. He's almost a decade older and thinks I haven't lived because I'm not old enough to have done so. I actually wanted to tell him some facets of my life, if for no other reason than to point out the falsity of his assumptions, but it just wasn't the right environment. We were miles apart at the table and I'm not one to tell everyone in a 20 ft radius my life story, or even chapters of it. I'm too private a person for that.

But now that I'm on that subject, I don't really believe that people WANT to hear someone else's life story. People always want to drag shit out of the darkest depths of your fucking soul and then once they've heard it they don't know how to react and then they get all strange and I've learned from experience that people really don't want to know certain things and best to just give them the Cliff's notes version. It's not that I want to keep certain things secret it's just that I don't see the point in rehashing past experiences for the sake of temporary entertainment.

So. Back to Mr. Economical. I woke up this morning not knowing how to feel about last night. I don't even know if he was even remotely attracted to me and that's something most men tend to make obvious in some way at some point. Perhaps that means he wasn't; which would explain the distance and a few of the comments. I sent him a friend request on Facebook this morning but he didn't reply to it so a few hours later I logged into Skype to see if he'd want to say hello and he didn't initiate so I said hey and it didn't go very well and I logged off and here I am. Hmm. Maybe I don't actually need the advice I originally asked for -- it would appear he wasn't actually all that interested.

Who says you can't be both clever and dense at the same time?

UPDATE: Have texted him and am sure we will not chat again. Ah, well.

xx Isabella

25 Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest:

Jon said...

He sounds like a plank. Wait for a better one.

Southern Sage said...

Sometimes it just doesn't work out. First he lied. That would have been a deal breaker for me anyway.
The waitress thing I might have said if she was pretty and I thought you would be comfortable with it. I like you would build a woman who was NOT skinny if it was up to me though.

Anyway, hey it was his loss right?

Next!

massagemama said...

Seriously, he was a right wanker!

Jon said...

1: The not seeming keen to walk to the bus stop is lame.

2:Did he not realise you were American before saying that?

3:Not starting the convo on Skype is not really good.

4: No second date.

JonC

Jade said...

I agree, I think you probably don't need advice about the date after writing that all out. I do think that you need to look at it differently tho--you say, "He's not that interested in me," but really, why would you be interested in him? He sounds, as someone else commented, like a wanker. I'd move on.

Jade

Isabella Snow said...

Jon - Welcome and thanks for the comments! I actually wouldn't expect anyone to walk me to the bus... Yes, he knew I was American; that may have been his point! He seemed to be busy on Skype -- perhaps chatting up someone beautiful! ;-)

Sage -- Some of my mates said to forgive him the age thing if I really liked him, and I did, so I did. But you may be right!!

Massagemama - Welcome! And thanks for making me smile :)

Jade -- Darling... if you only knew how rare it is to find even one of my fetishes in a man here, let alone 5 in one go...! I'll get over it though, I'm sure. ;-)

Transylvanian Miss said...

Wow, he was a complete arse! You deserve so much better than that.
always,
B.
p.s welcome back and I hope all is well! :)

The Panserbjørne said...

I have to agree with several of the other people who've commented. I hesitate to respond with the cliched "Honey, he's just not that into you", but unfortunately that does seem to be the case.

That said, could he possibly have been any more passive-aggressive about the way he expressed it? Good grief, I've rarely seen someone with such a lack of balls.

And regarding the "beautiful" comment -- no, you were NOT being uptight. You don't make comments like that on a first date.

I hope your next attempt goes better than this one!

-- PB

Isabella Snow said...

TM -- Thanks! And was he really? I really don't to think I was out with someone who treated me that badly!!

PB -- He really did try to make me feel like I was overreacting. I am not sure if he said it to test my reaction, or if he just wanted to be rude. Not that either one is okay...!

Transylvanian Miss said...

A complete arse in terms of behaviour and level of rudeness, the comments he made are fine (that the waitress was beautiful) if you were both out together simply as mates. The begrudging attitude at walking you to your bus stop I don't like it, he should have simply offered in a nice way, if you said it was ok then fair enough but speeding off and walking ahead of you it was a bit mean. I also just simply can't stand people who have a superiority complex about their age in comparison to yours, it's a pet peeve of mine and I know too many people like it, just because you've been on the planet longer doesn't neccesarily mean you know more or have dealt with more. Lying about his age, I prefer honesty, fine you maybe insecure or whatever but still is it not better to be honest. I'm not saying he was a horrific person or anything and maybe he was having an off day, perhaps he'll look back over his behaviour and re-think it? If he did that then it would be very different. But if that's the type of person he is then ya I vote him an 'arse' sorry for the irishness. :)
always,
B.

Isabella Snow said...

I think his superiority complex stems from having far too much money, actually. ;-) But if you look back at my post I've updated it with the text message I've just sent him. I'm quite sure he and I won't be seeing each other again now that I've sent it. Am somewhat upset about it all though because I'd really been keen on the person I saw him be in his documentary videos. Ah, well...

Thomas said...

i don't know why you feel weird and that he had potential. he started off by lying, the comments at dinner i thought were innocent, but his attitude taking you back home (the bus stop) were abominable. there are many other fish in the sea. as a guy, i can tell you he is marginally interested in getting laid, and that's it! move on, you seem to be a sweet girl.

Anonymous said...

Friends are people that know you well and still love you. That implies that, in their eyes, one's worst features are offset by the best. This fellow seems like the more you knew him, the less you'd care for him. When seeking a partner, sexual or otherwise, the certainty that they are able to bridge the odd moment and awkward situation is just as important as being able, in tandem with you, to keep a cool head in a real crisis. Sexy and reassuring, eh? The docu-dude is your own creation not residing within this loser. His unspoken comparison(s) - odious, insensitive, slimy, mean, and amazingly self-absorbed. Buck up girl and never accept being anyone's follow-behind-squaw. I would have turned the corner while he walked on....

Isabella Snow said...

Thomas -- Welcome! IMO, the comments were much worse than the walking home bit. To be honest I think he was actually quite nervous (this is due to things he mentioned at dinner which I haven't blogged about) and just didn't know how to act at that stage. I also, on reflection, think the dinner comments were deliberate and a test. I happen to not enjoy being tested, however. ;-) The reason it's sad is that I'm not keen on the locals and there's a very small group of expats here to choose from.

Anon -- Welcome and if you comment again please leave a name! Self-absorbed is very accurate and he admitted as much over dinner. There's a lot I left out of the blog post because I don't want to make excuses for his behavior which was, at times, quite mean, IMO. It's the nature of someone who comes from as wealthy a family as he came from. I have encountered it before and I don't know why I continue to go on dates with such people! ;-) I'm actually nowhere near the squaw type, don't worry, and I was quite clear that that wasn't going to fly. ;-)

Transylvanian Miss said...

It's always disappointing when people aren't who they at first pretend to be; and it is a pity he wasn't what he portrayed himself to be in his documentary videos. But at least you were able to find that out now. Ultimately it's his loss although if he is as he seems to sound his self absorbed nature probably won't ever allow him to see it. Bravo to you though :)
always,
B.

Southern Sage said...

Sweets if it starts with a lie then where can it go from there? How can you do anything in any relationship where trust is essential if it begins with a lie?

Isabella Snow said...

TM -- Yes... better to know now than find out later. Still a bummer, though!!

Sage -- I know but it's actually a common thing among British men for some reason. Believe me, the next time I will not be so laid back about it!

Melissa said...

Oh, I'd have been rubbed the wrong way by this guy, I think. Love all you have in italics, but the comment about the waitress on the first date, suggesting you were insecure because you were bothered by it, acting at all put out when walking you to the bus stop (either do it or don't, you know?) ... it would be hard to work up enthusiasm for a second date.

More than that though, I'd have trouble with a person thinking I was competing or analyzing him if I wasn't. Think it if you must, but give me a chance to just BE without labeling supposed characteristics the first night out. I don't like it when someone not in the know tries to tell me how I am. Gives me an indication about how THEY think though, so I guess that's handy. (Sore subject, but in a different context. Reading that got my dander up!)

Isabella Snow said...

Yes, that bothered me, too. WTF would I be competing with?? The waitress comment was totally rude and I realize this the more I think about it, and he did almost manage to make me feel like I was an ass for being bothered by it. I should have just went with my instincts when I realized he'd lied about his age to begin with...!

Jill said...

I know that it sucks to let go of someone that meets so many of your requirements but if you take a step back and look at this objectively, you'll see that this guy is NOT someone you want to spend a second more of your time with. He sounds rude and like he's the type of person who would try to fuck with your head by playing on your insecurities. Not good. I know it's slim pickings where you live but honestly, you're way better off alone than with someone who makes you feel shitty. On to the next!

Tina Fargnoli said...

WOW!! He is s scorpio after all! I am dealng with a scorpio guy andhe too is weird in some senses! Sometimes I think it's immaturity. Also he like your dude thinks that when he is saying something that you normally don't say is being honest and not rude and inconsiderate. Man really can be knuckle heads..I'll give ya that!!There are VERY few who don't say or do stupid things!

Isabella Snow said...

Jill -- Yes, I think you're right! Sadly it's such slim pickings that next could be next decade!!

Tina -- Welcome! I really think he was trying to test me with the comment to see how easy it would be to wind me up. I've been on two first dates with Scorpios... never a second! ;-)

Anonymous said...

Did he really have potential? Really? Surely a first date is supposed to be fun, romantic and leave you with butterflies at the end of it, not a bad taste in your mouth. So better off without.

Isabella Snow said...

Hello Anon... are you the same anon from before or someone new? (This is why I ask people to at least type in a name...) You're right though and I'm pretty much over the date now. :)

Heidi said...

What a disappointment. He sounds a little off his rocker. I would never be okay with someone saying the waitress was beautiful on a very first date. If you guys had been dating a while...then, sure. Not to pick on that one thing, but it's a respect thing and that's a huge thing for me anyway...to be respected.

I'm sorry he was such a loser. You deserve better. Really. You're worth a million. :)